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Would this be a case of...

...reverse sticker shock?

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I'm confused

Don't they get to set their retail price when they list on Amazon? If they want to charge more, why don't they?

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Re: I'm confused

Agreed

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Article 43

... or is this a case of complaining that the competition is undercutting them?

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Re: I'm confused

Do they? Remember when the RIAA was bitching that iTunes music was too cheep and Apple told them to pound bricks? If Amazon is the same way, they make the decisions on price.

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Not about the artists.

I have a hard time believing that they care about how much people are paying for music because they're worried about how people "value" their artists. It has been said several times by people in the...

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Article 40

On the other hand: labels devalue music by not allowing Amazon to sell it to me because I'm in the wrong country. Which of these do you suppose is closer to reality? It's a shame that Surfjan Steven's...

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Re: Not about the artists.

"...and I think that taking the time to go to a concert shows a greater appreciation for the "value" of an artist than spending an extra 3 dollars on an album."Or, better yet, send them a gift card for...

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Article 38

I understand this is a plea from the labels and musicians but I think a whole lot of them fail to understand a simple fact, which is... *drum roll* What you think an item's worth is not what other...

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But we also feel like the work that our artists produce is worth more than a...

No no, the latte is WAY overpriced. Buck a song, thats about it.

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Re: Re: I'm confused

Monopoly Battle. Round 1. FIGHT!

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Article 35

Itunes, Amazon, etc., these online music stores, they're not really selling copies of music, they're selling a service that happens to be priced that way. A service that is built on convenience. If AK...

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Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists produce is worth more...

Seriously, if you had an infinite supply of food or drink that you could quickly distribute across the world, would you actually be complaining about how no one valued your original coffee? This sort...

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worthless pussy

Not even worth the DL for free, they should be glad anyone pays at all.

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Re:

My latest book is actually worth one planet Earth. ....which is why I am now your ruler. Applaud me, serf, or I shall smite thee....

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Re: Re: Re: I'm confused

Is it a monopoly if market domination is because customers like you better?

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FTFY

What you think an item should cost is not what other people think the should cost You may think one of your song should cost a million dollar for all you want, but eventually the market will decide...

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Article 29

"But we also feel like the work that our artists produce is worth more than a cost of a latte." Why is this? When you think of it, the amount of work that goes into a latte is staggering. Consider: The...

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Econ 101

It sounds like someone (or a lot of someones) in the recording industry should take Econ 101 and learn about how prices are supposed to be set in the marketplace. English 101 would not hurt either....

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Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists produce is worth more...

I would agree, but the only way to have your music on Pandora is to sell a physical CD through Amazon. It's a stupid and frustrating rule for Pandora to have, and it doesn't even do Amazon any favors,...

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Article 26

Nothing will change my good mood today, after blockbuster filed for chapter 11 I'm all smiles, now I'm waiting for the rest of the gang(i.e.: BMI, EMI, Universal, Disney, Bono...)

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re: Econ 101

Most of the recorded music industry still believes it's immune to capitalism. I agree that most music is worth more than the price of a latte. If the labels could get their heads out of the sand,...

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Re: Econ 101

"take Econ 101 and learn about how prices are supposed to be set in the marketplace." Do you mean "As it relates to the price of a latte", which is what all my best econ teachers used as a reference...

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Re: Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists produce is worth...

Hmmm... I'm not sure if I follow you here. You're using a promotional tool which is (I think, correct me if I'm wrong) provided to you for free. Then you complain that the providers of said tool are...

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Re: Econ 101

50 cents a song. The research overwhelmingly suggests that 50 cents is the ideal price point. If I charged for music that's where I would set it. That would put one of my releases in the range of...

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Did anyone bother to fact check this...

According to Bandcamp you can purchase the album in question for $8, but on Amazon it is $8.99... Me thinks this is a BS article...

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Re: Re: Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists produce is...

Oh, I've no problem with Amazon or what they offer, giving people a chance to make money is good in my book. And I like Pandora, too. I just think it's silly that Pandora requires a physical release to...

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists produce...

I should mention that while Amazon is free, making CDs obviously isn't. Plus you have to obtain a barcode, which also isn't free, though not too expensive. And you need an ISRC number (free), you need...

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"I just think it's silly that Pandora requires a physical release to exist at some other site." Well, "at some other site" is because they're not a music retailer and have no desire to be one so they...

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists produce...

My main beef with Soundscan is that they STILL don't have a "hip hop" genre in their submissions. You have to list as "Rap Music" which is incredibly ignorant of the musical form, and slightly...

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists...

Nothing to stop you from hiring a manager to take care of that for you, of course, but he'll want his cut as well... Anyway, that links back down to the post of mine below (I didn't click reply for...

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Cost of a Latte?

It's funny that they would use the "cost of a latte" for comparison. Starbucks added up the "cost of a latte" to the tune of $10 billion in Gross sales, and $317 million in profit in 2008. Someone...

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Re:

Well, Pandora doesn't sell any music, they simply redirect to Amazon. I'd rather they redirect to the artist's store. I'm not sure I buy the spamming issue, simply because they existed for several...

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Re: Re:

By the way, Dark Helmet, from one Spaceballs fan to another, this one's for you: http://hosey.bandcamp.com/track/when-will-then-be-now I've been meaning to give you this link.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our artists...

I replied to the other post, too. I kind of agree that physical copies cut down on some spam, but I doubt it's a cure all. I've worked in a record store and we were constantly "spammed" with real CDs...

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Re: Re:

"Well, Pandora doesn't sell any music, they simply redirect to Amazon. I'd rather they redirect to the artist's store. " ...and would every artist's store give them the cut of the proceeding sale that...

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: But we also feel like the work that our...

"I wasn't aware that Pandora was limited to the US. That's good to know. Thanks." Ah, please go and educate yourself - there's probably a market you haven't tapped somewhere. Check every site's FAQs...

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fifty cents?

Please show me the "overwhelming research" that shows 50 cents is what music "should" cost. I buy a ton of music and even *I* think 50 cents is too cheap. A buck a song is already cheaper than music...

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LOL just LOL

hahaha hahaha so start telling places not to offer music and what will happen you shit for brains music labels

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since when is Amazon "cheap"?

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Re: fifty cents?

A fair price to pay is the amount the most people wish to pay for it. It doesn't even have to be old material. For example my usual go to UK retailer, play.com is selling Gorillaz' Plastic Beach...

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Re: fifty cents?

It's because of dumb logic like that that some people would rather just take it for free (pirate it). Artists don't decide how much money their music is worth, the market does. And it's a thin balance...

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Hehe

Nice comparison to the latte... When selling lattes, I have to restock on several materials and do considerable work to get the latte to customers at high quality. With this music, there are no...

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Re: fifty cents?

Music fans should have enough respect for the artists they like to at least cough up THAT much. You might have a point if there was any reason to believe that even a significant portion of that $1...

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Re: Re: Econ 101

"I've been considering pricing my music at 50 cents (vs free) just to see if it causes *more* downloads." Price it as free, but put a 50 cent suggested price on it. That way you span the range of...

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The price of content is going to zero ...

The price of all content is going to zero for the consumer over the next 5-10 years. The trends are there. Historically TV was free and supported by advertising until cable happened. You are going to...

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Asthmatic Kitty

I guess I am beginning to sound like a broken record, but a song is worth a lot less than a latte. I can always sing or play another song, and if I am locked into a particular song so hard that it is...

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